6月17日下午，在中国深圳，华为创始人兼CEO任正非与数字时代思想领袖——乔治·吉尔德和尼古拉斯·尼葛洛庞帝，进行了100分钟的交流和谈话。

　　尼古拉斯·尼葛洛庞帝、马歇尔·麦克卢汉和乔治·吉尔德三人被誉为“数字时代的三大思想家”，其中，马歇尔·麦克卢汉在1980年去世，而尼葛洛庞帝作为麻省理工学院媒体实验室的创办人，在中国知名度颇高，曾对不少中国互联网领袖产生深刻影响。

　　

　　本次交流会三位成员简介：

任正非：华为创始人兼CEO，1988年从部队转业，在深圳创办了华为公司。2011年，《财富》杂志中文版发布 “中国最具影响力的商界领袖”榜单，任正非居首。2019年4月，其上榜美国《时代》杂志2019年度全球百位最具影响力人物榜单。尼葛洛庞帝：尼古拉斯·尼葛洛庞帝是美国计算机科学家，美国麻省理工学院教授、《连线》杂志的专栏作家，也是MIT多媒体实验室的创办人。长期以来一直在倡导利用数字化技术促进社会生活的转型，被西方媒体推崇为电脑和传播科技领域最具影响力的大师之一。乔治·吉尔德：当今美国著名未来学家、经济学家，被称为“数字时代的三大思想家之一”。他是《福布斯》、《哈佛商业评论》等著名杂志的撰稿人。代表作有《企业之魂》《财富与贫困》和《通信革命》。

　　谈话中，任正非与两位科技思想领袖就美国对华为的政治打击、人工智能、知识产权、网络安全、全球信息脱钩、科技创新等问题，展开了广泛讨论。

　　完整视频：任正非深度对话美国顶尖学者

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　　文字稿

　　Huawei hosted a public relations event in China today called “A Coffee With Ren,” a made-for-TV special with CEO Ren Zhengfei. And while there were plenty of newsworthy moments, including the confirmation that Huawei phone sales are expected to slump 40 percent in coming years, the media spectacle was pretty awkward—especially when reporters from CNN and the Washington Post started asking questions.

　　

　　The Q&A portion of the event included questions from reporters at various Chinese state media outlets that were answered directly. But once the first major American news outlet started asking questions, the format seemed to change for no good reason.

　　When it was time for the American reporters, the moderator suddenly decided that all of the questions should be asked ahead of time, and then they’d return to the panel for answers. Somehow the moderator ran out of time for Huawei’s CEO to answer questions about China’s internet censorship and the blocking of American tech companies in the country.

　　“A question for the whole panel and I’ll start with Mr. Ren,” the CNN reporter said. “You talked about the internet generation and how ideology has not been diluted. And the future is going to be brighter and not darker. And you also talked about using Google Maps to see how fish is farmed around the world, very interesting...”

　　“I am curious about your views on China’s vast search apparatus, which has blocked Google’s search and map functions in your country, and other U.S. and foreign tech. Can the future be as bright as you envision when you have a whole generation that has been sort of walled off for that kind of information?” the CNN reporter asked. “And some people in China pointed out that this sort of walling off was inviting back retaliation eventually.”

　　Ren never did get around to answering the question, which is a good one as the U.S. and China trade barbs over whether Huawei could be used by the Chinese government to spy on Americans. Huawei believes that it’s being persecuted in the U.S., as the U.S. Commerce Department recently placed Huawei on the so-called Entity List that forbids companies like Google, Intel, and Broadcomm from doing business with the Chinese tech giant.

　　The U.S. Justice Department is even suing Huawei for fraud, obstruction of justice, and the theft of trade secrets, though the company denies any wrongdoing and claim that they’re being shut out simply because American companies can’t compete. But where does that leave American companies in China? As the CNN reporter pointed out, China has strict regulations that restrict the free flow of information and locks out American tech giants like Google and Facebook.

　　The “Coffee With Ren” event was livestreamed on YouTube and Twitter by CGTN, an English-language media channel controlled by Beijing. The event was clearly intended for a western audience, which anyone could guess not just because YouTube and Twitter are blocked in China. The panel included George Gilder, a conservative commentator and former speechwriter for President Nixon as well as Nicholas Negroponte, founder of the MIT Media Lab.

　　Huawei did not respond to an inquiry about how much Gilder and Negroponte had been paid for the event, but Negroponte made a really good point in the Chinese government’s favor that speaks to the potential national security threat in the eyes of President Donald Trump. Negroponte pointed out that Trump has recently signaled he’s ready to loosen restrictions on Huawei if the Chinese government provides trade concessions to the U.S. during the ongoing trade war.

　　“Clearly it’s not about national security. We don’t trade national security,” Negroponte said.

　　

　　But it’s not entirely clear that Negroponte understands what motivates President Trump. The president isn’t terribly concerned about issues of national security, as was made abundantly clear last week during Trump’s interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos.

　　When asked if candidates should be able to receive intelligence from a foreign government to swing an election (something that’s very illegalunder current law), Trump said that the FBI was wrong and that it would be fine. Everyone does it, Trump claims.

　　And that pretty much says it all when it comes to Trump’s real priorities. Huawei knows that all they really need to do to butter up Trump is get on his good side, and they might get a reprieve, which is why the Chinese tech company clearly hasn’t given up on the American market yet. In fact, Ren wasn’t shy about heaping praise on Trump during an interview in January.

　　“Huawei is only a sesame seed in the trade conflict between China and the U.S.,” Ren said back in January during the start of his current press campaign.

　　“Trump is a great president. He dares to massively cut taxes, which will benefit business. But you have to treat well the companies and countries so that they are willing to invest in the U.S. and the government will be able to collect enough tax.” Good effort, Huawei. Let’s see if it pays off.

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